Trahaearne ab Einion (abt. 1195)

Born about 1195 in Wales

Descendants

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Biography

Spelling of given name varies: Treharne, Trahaearne, Trahearn.

Einion is the usual spelling; "ab" because it is pronounced with a leading vowel sound.

Research Notes

Estimated Date: Added "about 1195" based on daughter's birth being given as 1230 (and that Welsh men of the time married late).

From his daughter's profile:

Joan was born about 1230 and married Thomas Awbrey.^[1]

Excerpt from Joan's profile:

Thomas Awbrey m. Joan d. John Baron de Carew. (i) Vide p. II.

- Thomas b 1117 per Aubrey-37; no dates for wife Joan (or her dad)

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Thomas Awbrey m. Joan d. Trahaern ap Enion.

- Thomas b after 1140 (1241 originally per Aubrey-37 - prob. a century error); guess for marriage date of Thomas b 1117 is 1140 (putting guess for birth of Joan de Carew at 1120)

Problem in given lineage here - "1241" was probably not a century typo, (although his birth year is now estimated to be c1220). See notes on profile for Thomas Awbrey goch.^[2]

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Thomas Awbrey goch, constable and ranger of the forest of Brecon, m. Nest d. Owen. Gethin.

- Thomas b 1166 (after "century typo" correction from 1266 for Aubrey-35) fits with previous guesses that lead to an 1165 marriage guess for parents Thomas and Joan, which leads to an 1145 birth year guess for her.

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Richard Awbrey m. Crusilla, d. Philip ap Elydr.

[1] Joan m. Sir Peter Gunter

[2] Agnes m. Sir John Havard

Source: Jones, Theophilus. A History of the County of Brecknock, Volumes 1-2, p 466 (accessed May 25, 2015]

Sources

1. ↑ Wolcott, Darrell – THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF ANCIENT WALES from research requested by Stuart Awbrey April, 2016. Results based on published material of Peter Bartrum and Lewis Dwnn.
2. ↑ This insert was on Awbrey-241, not daugther Joan's profile. It is now. ~ Liz, 14 March 2019

• The Bartrum Project, (digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum) Note: Cadair home page and the Bartrum Project's search page was captured by the Wayback Machine, but, apparently, none of the pages for the charts. The Bartrum charts are still available online here, but not as a searchable database (as of 2023). See this G2G post.

See also:

Rootsweb database of Celtic Royal Genealogy - actually, long gone (since Ancestry bought Rootsweb):

• Trahaearn ab Einion Fychan (but no Jane; an unnamed dau. married someone else).
  • Father Einion Fychan ab Einion Sais; mother ferch Llywelyn; spouse unk.
  • Children: ferch Trahaearn ab Einion Fychan; Gwallter ap Trahaearn
  • Sources: Bartrum Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 14, p.98 (Bartrum project chart, Bleddyn ap Maenyrch, has no Joan)
  • for daughter: Drymbenog 3, p.244; Bleddyn ap Maenyrch 14, p.98 (Bartrum project chart, Drymbenog 3, has a Joan, daughter of Reginald Aubrey as a wife of Hwyel ap Gwgon: Philip m unnamed daughter of Trahaearn ab Einion Fychan is several generations down from them)